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or worse, we're not seeing big enough deficits because everyone in washington's got this deficit hysteria, even though we're paying 1.6% interest on ten-year bonds. >> well, how about some clarity? how come ceo after ceo and manager after manager come on this program and tell me the same thing? i'm not going to move. i'm not going to put money into the economy. i'm not going to hire new workers because i have no idea what my tax rates are going to be. >> they want tax cuts. >> no, i think -- >> if you look at their investment -- >> i think they want clarity. >> i look at the data. if you look at investment equipment and softwares, i'm leaving out structures for exactly the reason your previous segment said. there's a huge vacancy in most categories in unresidential real estate because of the prior building boom. if you look at equipment and software investments and share of gdp, we're almost back to the prerecession level. so the fact is generally they actually have been investing in spite of what they're telling you. >> maria, dean's right about one thing. all the stimulus efforts have b
or worse, we're not seeing big enough deficits because everyone in washington's got this deficit hysteria, even though we're paying 1.6% interest on ten-year bonds. >> well, how about some clarity? how come ceo after ceo and manager after manager come on this program and tell me the same thing? i'm not going to move. i'm not going to put money into the economy. i'm not going to hire new workers because i have no idea what my tax rates are going to be. >> they want tax cuts. >>...
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if you think about how we're running our country right now, we have about a 10% deficit when you look at the revenues we're bringing in and expenditures we have. rising interest rates would only exacerbate that problem. all of the policymakers know that, both on the monetary side and fiscal side. >> that's kind of a scary thought when you think about it. you seem to be saying that bernanke or whomever may run the fed in the future is going to be behold ton lower rates not necessarily to help jump-start the economies as well as make sure we don't get swamped by our budget deficit, if rates went up, our interest payments would escalate dramatically. >> david, that's exactly right. we may not be able to jump-start the economy. perhaps the best we can do is keep it from going into a free fall. that's a reality we're all contending with right now. >> all trying to figure out where we put our money in that scenario. lee, that for your time. lee partridge from salient partners. back to you guys. >>> there is mounting evidence that housing is really starting to turn the corner and the re-fi b
if you think about how we're running our country right now, we have about a 10% deficit when you look at the revenues we're bringing in and expenditures we have. rising interest rates would only exacerbate that problem. all of the policymakers know that, both on the monetary side and fiscal side. >> that's kind of a scary thought when you think about it. you seem to be saying that bernanke or whomever may run the fed in the future is going to be behold ton lower rates not necessarily to...
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that's a lot of revenue that could help with deficit, deficit reduction and our debt structure. the third piece of that is we could become more energy secure as a nation. today we're less reliant on outside sources. new technologies have allowed us to produce all the energy we'll need right here at home. if we create policies to allow us to use americans to create american energy, it'll benefit us all. those are the things that could be done immediately. >> so how come the administration isn't doing it, if it's that obvious these jobs can be created soon? >> well, it's unfortunate because i think their limitations on the industry is driven by, in my view, extreme ideology. it's driven by an irresponsible view that we can switch from one energy form to the other overnight. somehow, we can take the 62% of our energy in the u.s., which happens to be oil and natural gas, and just flip a switch and turn that to wind mills or solar panels. all energy forms are important to us, but the reality is it took us 100 years in the united states to get off wood as our primary form of energy. w
that's a lot of revenue that could help with deficit, deficit reduction and our debt structure. the third piece of that is we could become more energy secure as a nation. today we're less reliant on outside sources. new technologies have allowed us to produce all the energy we'll need right here at home. if we create policies to allow us to use americans to create american energy, it'll benefit us all. those are the things that could be done immediately. >> so how come the administration...
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his plan would probably explode the budget deficit. it's not a fiscally responsible plan. >> isn't it true, chris, that he has said he needs to work with congress in terms of going into the specifics of what those loopholes are? >> well, that's true. ultima ultimately, congress, in particular the house ways and means committee, would ultima ultimately write any major tax reform plan. my problem here is tax reform is supposed to be about simplification. i think romney's $17,000 cap would complex complex if i the . that would add a whole bunch of new leans to the 1040, which would make the code more complex. i think we should go to something like the paul ryan house plan he introduced a couple years ago which would eliminate virtually all deductions and credits and use the money to simplify the tax structure down to 10 and 25%. romney needs to be more bold here. his running mate has the bold ideas for tax reform. that's where we should be going here. >> you know, we've had various members of the house ways and means committee on this pro
his plan would probably explode the budget deficit. it's not a fiscally responsible plan. >> isn't it true, chris, that he has said he needs to work with congress in terms of going into the specifics of what those loopholes are? >> well, that's true. ultima ultimately, congress, in particular the house ways and means committee, would ultima ultimately write any major tax reform plan. my problem here is tax reform is supposed to be about simplification. i think romney's $17,000 cap...
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we have seen a budget come out that continues to bring the deficit down to sustainable levels. europe has pledged to work in partnership with spain to make sure its banks get recapitalized and continue to afford a access the markets. we will see as they work in the partnerships the days ahead again, they have the tools and we see the political will on the part of the spanish go >> you watch spain, you just got back from china. i have a bunch of questions about china, stories in the paper, lael, in china is the first question, the second question is the republican nominee, mitt romney, has accused the obama administration of not being tough enough on china. the third question you have a report coming out october 15th on whether china is a currency manipulator. what are you going to say? >> well, let me just start with your first question. china's leadership team is undergoing a transition process and confront important questions how they are going to take forward their economic policy. steve, as you know, since day one, president obama's been extremely focused on achieving a mor
we have seen a budget come out that continues to bring the deficit down to sustainable levels. europe has pledged to work in partnership with spain to make sure its banks get recapitalized and continue to afford a access the markets. we will see as they work in the partnerships the days ahead again, they have the tools and we see the political will on the part of the spanish go >> you watch spain, you just got back from china. i have a bunch of questions about china, stories in the paper,...
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in half and we've had four years of trillion dollar budget deficits. these are promises and he's got to be held accountable for that. >> i hope mitt romney is listening to this and takes your advice. a debate of 90 minutes is a precious commodity and i'm saying that from romney's perspective, there are other issues that have a much better chance to move him forward than talking about solyndra. >> i got to leave it there, gentlemen. i know, did -- please stay with cnbc for tonight's coverage. i'm larry kudlow. thanks for watching. [ male announcer ] the 2013 smart comes with 8 airbags, a crash management system and the world's only tridion safety cell which can withstand over three and a half tons. small in size. big on safety. which can withstand over three and a half tons. and every day since, two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. we've worked hard to keep it. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help people and businesses who were affected, and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open for every
in half and we've had four years of trillion dollar budget deficits. these are promises and he's got to be held accountable for that. >> i hope mitt romney is listening to this and takes your advice. a debate of 90 minutes is a precious commodity and i'm saying that from romney's perspective, there are other issues that have a much better chance to move him forward than talking about solyndra. >> i got to leave it there, gentlemen. i know, did -- please stay with cnbc for tonight's...
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it's four years later we have trillion-dollar deficits. the cbo says we'll have a trillion-dollar deficit each of the next four years. if you're elected we'll get to a trillion-dollar debt. you said before you'd cut the deficit in half and i love this idea of $4 trillion in cuts. you found $4 trillion of ways to reduce or get closer to a balanced budget except we show trillion-dollar deficits every year. that doesn't get the job done. >> what you heard from president obama in coming back was saying that mitt romney had abandoned his tax cut plan, that is not true because what mitt romney said was it was going to be paid for but he also said that the challenge of achieving all the things romney wants to do at the same time, cut tax rates, not increase the deficit or burden the middle class is impossible to do. >> the only way to meet governor romney's pledge of not reducing the deficit or not adding to the deficit is by burdening middle class families, the average middle class family with children would pay about $2,000 more. >> now bottom
it's four years later we have trillion-dollar deficits. the cbo says we'll have a trillion-dollar deficit each of the next four years. if you're elected we'll get to a trillion-dollar debt. you said before you'd cut the deficit in half and i love this idea of $4 trillion in cuts. you found $4 trillion of ways to reduce or get closer to a balanced budget except we show trillion-dollar deficits every year. that doesn't get the job done. >> what you heard from president obama in coming back...
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let me mention something about the deficit. this idea of every year america spending and the federal government a trillion dollars more than we take in is bad for our economy and bad for the next generation. it's immore for us to keep spending than we take in. oil cap federal spending and get us on track to a balanced budget. >> all right. we're going to leave that speech here. and we'll wait to see if he make some specific comments about the jobs report. he didn't. we'll show you what's the average is going. dow is going negative. nasdaq and dow and the s&p have lost a little bit of altitude. apple not helping when it comes to the nasdaq. all right. romney talk being about jobs. we're talking about jobs today. guys, you heard what steve liesman had to say. >> do ible the number? probably not. when you look at the decrease it became something that did make us all scratch our heads. to steve's point i would address this. i drove a cadillac -- when i brought my fwal to the prom as not in a pinto it was an el dorado. this 114,000
let me mention something about the deficit. this idea of every year america spending and the federal government a trillion dollars more than we take in is bad for our economy and bad for the next generation. it's immore for us to keep spending than we take in. oil cap federal spending and get us on track to a balanced budget. >> all right. we're going to leave that speech here. and we'll wait to see if he make some specific comments about the jobs report. he didn't. we'll show you what's...
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off the deficit. nobody ever said that. >> do you think there's any scenario that someone gets elected, they do some things that make us get back to 3 to 3.5% growth which makes this a whole different picture? >> there must be a scenario. i can't lay it out but there are a lot of things that can happen. in the u.s. the dollar is low and that's a critical input. if you look at where growth has got to come from, it's got to come from consumption, got to come from government spending or investment or exports. nothing else. there's nothing else there. >> the rest of the globe is slowing down. how do you get exports going in. >> the dollar goes down. >> people say the euro is overvalued now. you think the euro is overvalued now. >> yes. >> it helps us if it's overvalued. >> it does help you. >> what would it take to you go long in the euro, have to win the lottery? what would it take? there's no scenario which you'd go long in euro. >> and the euro is not one critter anymore. it ought to be a northern euro
off the deficit. nobody ever said that. >> do you think there's any scenario that someone gets elected, they do some things that make us get back to 3 to 3.5% growth which makes this a whole different picture? >> there must be a scenario. i can't lay it out but there are a lot of things that can happen. in the u.s. the dollar is low and that's a critical input. if you look at where growth has got to come from, it's got to come from consumption, got to come from government spending...
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if you elect me, i will put through my plan to refinance the deficits is, switch to opec busting job creating natural gases, lower taxes on dividends, chakts the masses on money, clean the skies, rebuild our infrastructure and reappoint ben scotty bernanke to give liberty, justice and higher stock prices for all. that's a platform i could vote for, if only obama or romney would embrace it. lawrence in texas, lawrence? >> caller: jim, how are you doing? i have a question for you today regarding rpm. the earning report came out today. i'm trying to find out whether it should be long or short in the stock. >> short that, you have to short that plentiful dividend. i never recommend that idea. you don't want to do that, boss. i was going to recommend this and then i felt that the upside was very, very limited. good numbers. i should have done it. for heaven's say, i really did kick myself with this one. i thought if i recommended it, the stock would go up too much. ron in louisiana. ron? >> caller: jim. i've got to thank you. you're the best. i've been investing for 55 years and didn't ma
if you elect me, i will put through my plan to refinance the deficits is, switch to opec busting job creating natural gases, lower taxes on dividends, chakts the masses on money, clean the skies, rebuild our infrastructure and reappoint ben scotty bernanke to give liberty, justice and higher stock prices for all. that's a platform i could vote for, if only obama or romney would embrace it. lawrence in texas, lawrence? >> caller: jim, how are you doing? i have a question for you today...
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you mentioned that mitt romney's closed the deficit among likely voters for obama from five points to three points. and in florida, he's closed from five down to one which is tied given the margin of error in our poll. in virginia, he has closed the gap from five to two. if you look at the state of ohio, a must-win state for mitt romney, mathematically possible for him to get to it without it but his strategists think he needs it. he needs to make progress there. but the fact that some of the national polls are coming back a little bit, some of the swing state polls are tightening, is a bit of an earn couragement for romney that he still has an opportunity for deficit with three or four points to change the dynamic in some way. he's got to hope that obama is not on his best game. you could have a scenario that like what happened in 2000 where george w. bush moved significantly without gore and ultimately became president. >> it's interesting that the poll also shows, as you mention, this 12% of swingable votes in the middle that he could potentially get a hold of. also ensuring that t
you mentioned that mitt romney's closed the deficit among likely voters for obama from five points to three points. and in florida, he's closed from five down to one which is tied given the margin of error in our poll. in virginia, he has closed the gap from five to two. if you look at the state of ohio, a must-win state for mitt romney, mathematically possible for him to get to it without it but his strategists think he needs it. he needs to make progress there. but the fact that some of the...
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>> there's no question the deficits have exploded under them. the last two decades among the two wars and the mistakes in my opinion, we blew a lot of money. multiples of what we blew before. so, you know, my attitude is that -- >> jimmy, my question is do you have any confidence no matter who is in office that actually the hard cuts that need to be made ultimately to make any text plan deficit neutral are actually going to happen? >> and my question to you comes down to a simple question. >> do you believe in the tooth fairy? >> who does the president listen to? i wonder if you could name for me four or five executives who have been advising the president and that he's been listening to. okay, four. okay, three. okay, two. okay, one. i'm waiting. one name. >> well -- >> you would argue -- >> if you think general electric the irrelevant to what's wrong with the country today. >> we have steve case on the air a lot who makes that argument. i think you are probably more right than wrong. >> ubs was losing their clients because of their affiliate w
>> there's no question the deficits have exploded under them. the last two decades among the two wars and the mistakes in my opinion, we blew a lot of money. multiples of what we blew before. so, you know, my attitude is that -- >> jimmy, my question is do you have any confidence no matter who is in office that actually the hard cuts that need to be made ultimately to make any text plan deficit neutral are actually going to happen? >> and my question to you comes down to a...
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and we need to cut -- close the deficit by a trillion. we got a trillion dollar deficit and it raises like -- i think it's less. maybe 40 billion. >> are you correct, it's not sufficient. >> and he's not talking about anything else. you can keep your entitlement, keep this -- he's not talking about doing specific things with entitlements. >> you're right to this extent. he's not talking specifics on entitlements. >> it's mostly we'll tax rich people so that -- or people that make over 250 and you'll basically get to keep everything including the phones. >> joe, i thought you either wanted to talk about the last minute kick that a billy -- >> i didn't see that. oh, the redskins. >> or my terrific story on debates in the "new york times" this morning. >> it was between piece. it was a very good piece. >> i did see that. >> thank you. let me recap. >> you didn't even mention the bengals beat the redskins. >> i was going to if you brought it up. and congratses on the reds, too. they have tied the nationals for best record in baseball. so we'v
and we need to cut -- close the deficit by a trillion. we got a trillion dollar deficit and it raises like -- i think it's less. maybe 40 billion. >> are you correct, it's not sufficient. >> and he's not talking about anything else. you can keep your entitlement, keep this -- he's not talking about doing specific things with entitlements. >> you're right to this extent. he's not talking specifics on entitlements. >> it's mostly we'll tax rich people so that -- or people...
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and doesn't resolve the question about how do you keep the code without increasing the deficit. but it's a promising proposal that tax policy exports like because it is achievable. now, if you lump the deductions together and don't fight them one by one and have a cap, that is easier to get done. >> on that 17,000, a, do you think we're going to hear about it tonight? does that include things like charitable deductions, mortgage deductions? how far do you think that goes? >> reporter: yes, it does. >> 17,000 cap across the board. that is meaningful. that would have a huge impact on the real estate market, it would have a huge impact broadly. >> reporter: yes, i believe from what i was reading yesterday, and i haven't gotten a chance to delve into it that $17,000 level was set purposefully because people in the under $200,000 income category generally speaking don't have more than that, right? but it makes it easier to begin taking on deductions as you move up the scale. so i do think it's positive. i would expect him to get asked about it and, you know, if he starts sketching ou
and doesn't resolve the question about how do you keep the code without increasing the deficit. but it's a promising proposal that tax policy exports like because it is achievable. now, if you lump the deductions together and don't fight them one by one and have a cap, that is easier to get done. >> on that 17,000, a, do you think we're going to hear about it tonight? does that include things like charitable deductions, mortgage deductions? how far do you think that goes? >>...
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with 40 or 50 hedge fund managers and it comes up a lot in the larger context, of course, with the deficit and what we're going to do about it. >> there's no doubt. if you were to get a $4 trillion deduction, it would be, than the numbers themselves. >> captured by the tea party. do you think the tea party will make a deal? this is the kind of talk you get. as soon as you say something like what i just said. cramer on twitter say i'm a house man for higher stock prices and that's what i stand for. that's the campaign that i've had. my principles are clear. you get this thing resolved with the fiscal cliff and the stock prices go up. that's my party and i'm in the higher stock price party and i'm not in the pajama party, by the way. >> you have jim brown talking about investors fleeing the market and the percentage of households from 2001 that have stocks or stock funs down to 46% now. i mean, is that a contrarian indicator of any kind? we make fun of these types of stories constantly. >> you see that the stock market was down? the machines are in charge. 50% of the trading and the sec is b
with 40 or 50 hedge fund managers and it comes up a lot in the larger context, of course, with the deficit and what we're going to do about it. >> there's no doubt. if you were to get a $4 trillion deduction, it would be, than the numbers themselves. >> captured by the tea party. do you think the tea party will make a deal? this is the kind of talk you get. as soon as you say something like what i just said. cramer on twitter say i'm a house man for higher stock prices and that's...
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imagine what would happen if we dealt with the budget deficit in a meaningful way and did deal with the issues? one thinks the uncertainty cloud goes away. if it doesn't, there's something else going on. >> i was referring to a sorkin column arguing that a lot of the p.e. firms have to use this money in the next few months. pretty lofty money when you talk about price times, even at dow, right? >> i'm surprised there hasn't been more activity from private equity. they need to put the money to work or god forbid to give it back. that's not something they want to do. they can borrow fairly well. maybe not to the size overall of the deals percentagewise, but incredibly generous terms and we have not seen the kind of deals we may have anticipated. i know andrew wrote about that today. >> i'm pro-law on "mad money" as the large real estate trusts are getting industrial use in warehouses. he said something really interesting, you know what? we are finally running out of space. we are going to have to start building. nobody's building anything. don wood and comes, we are almost out of shopping
imagine what would happen if we dealt with the budget deficit in a meaningful way and did deal with the issues? one thinks the uncertainty cloud goes away. if it doesn't, there's something else going on. >> i was referring to a sorkin column arguing that a lot of the p.e. firms have to use this money in the next few months. pretty lofty money when you talk about price times, even at dow, right? >> i'm surprised there hasn't been more activity from private equity. they need to put...